Can a Private Pilot With a Sport Pilot Cfi Perform a Flight Review for a Private Pilot?

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I know a Sport Pilot CFI can requite a flight review to a Private Pilot. But tin can he do information technology in an aircraft that is non an LSA, provided he (the CFI-SP) also has a Private or higher document and thus qualified to deed as PIC in the aircraft? The obvious answer is "no", but y'all'd think the same almost the first sentence and that ane's not "no".
I would not recall the answer to the first one is "no." But the second ane is "no."
Look at it this way.

A "regular" CFI with only a single-engine rating can give a flight review to a pilot with both a single and multi rating, so long as the flight review is in a unmarried. Same matter.

So long every bit the trainee has pilot ratings or privileges for both:

It'south not about the instructor'due south pilot ratings and privileges.

It is about the instructors' teacher ratings and privileges.
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OK, and so a Individual Pilot is flying with a CFI to do a flying review.
Who is Motion picture? Information technology's not the CFI, right? So why would the SP CFI need to be qualified to act equally Moving picture?

I'thou not 100% certain, but that's my have on information technology.
But to provide a regulatory reference...
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61.413:
If you lot concord a flight instructor certificate with a sport airplane pilot rating, you lot are authorized, inside the limits of your certificate and rating, to provide preparation and endorsements that are required for, and relate to -
(6) A flight review or operating privilege for a sport pilot;
Was there a legal interpretation that says that they can requite a flight review to a private airplane pilot?
Not that I'thousand aware of, but 61.56 specifically states that a airplane pilot can receive a flying review in any aircraft in which they're qualified as PIC from an teacher authorized in that aircraft.
Not necessarily. It'southward generally a pick who is Moving picture. Only there are a number of situations in which the CFI must be the PIC. The simplest? The airplane pilot's last flight review was in December 2016 and the new one takes place January 2019.
But the question has zero to exercise with who is Pic.
Actually, I am going to modify the showtime part of my original answer. I don't know the answer. As you betoken out, the FR regulation calls for
"a flying review given in an shipping for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor..."

That'due south a term of art referring to the privileges and limitations of the instructor and as @pdonahue points out, 61.413 appears to limit flying review authority to "sport pilots."

It's an interesting question.
Since a Individual Pilot also has Sport Pilot level privileges, he can be a "sport Pilot" when receiving a flight review. I don't encounter whatsoever issues there.
He's not a "Sport Pilot." He'south a "Private Airplane pilot" (that'south what's written in his certificate) who happens to fly an SLA.
I tin see it either way.
If I'thousand a commercial or ATP AMEL with Private Pilot privileges for ASES, I can receive a flight review in an ASES (I'chiliad just a Private Airplane pilot for the FR) that still allows me to exercise commercial privileges in AMEL.
Lacking specific guidance to the contrary, I'd say the same applies to Sport Pilot privileges.
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Well, that seems to answer my question with a definite "no".
As for the first, all I can say is I (as a PP) have received my last three flight reviews from a CFI-SP, and when the FAA reviewed my logbooks after my forced landing a year and a half ago, they didn't question it.

I did it with the CFI-SP because the local FBO has a J-iii that'due south flown past their 2 sport pilot instructors, and none of the total CFIs had tailwheel endorsements. Getting used to a C-172 again for a flying review would be a waste product of time when all I want to do is fly little tailwheel biplanes.

The reason for the question is that now for the showtime fourth dimension in many years I ain an airplane that has ii seats, tailwheel and non LSA, and naturally I'd adopt to practise the flight review in my own plane.
61.101 (c) This subpart applies to applicants for, and holders of, sport pilot certificates. Information technology also applies to holders of recreational pilot certificates and higher, as provided in §61.303
So if you be flying an ell ess eh?, y'all tin be a sport airplane pilot too!
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I believe the way they give-and-take it is "private or higher exercising sport pilot privileges," lik a PP with an expired medical flying a LSA, or a PP with a medical (though information technology's irrelevant) flight a different grade or category of LSA with a SP logbook endorsement instead of a checkride and certificate rating.
Only to provide more food for thought here, if "Private Pilot" ways what's written on the document, that would as well mean that a commercial or ATP cannot share expenses, be reimbursed for aircraft operating expenses that are directly related to search and location operations, or conduct any of the other operations that "a individual airplane pilot may".
The answer is 61.413 (a))6), an SP CFI only authorized to provide "A flight review or operating privilege for a sport pilot;"
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As a holder of a PPL can I not fly an LSA without my medical onboard? When doing so am I not a sport pilot? If so, can I not get a CFIS to give me a flight review every bit a sport pilot?
No, you have a private pilot certificate. A medical certificate is not a requirement of a flight review. A lite sport CFI is merely authorized to give pilots with a lite sport certificate a flight review. Yous opting not to get a medical and flying LS doesn't alter the regulation.
Also zero would end yous from getting a medical and exercising you full PP privedges.
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I tin fly an lsa without my medical onboard equally a private pilot as I am flight under sport pilot rules. That makes me a sport pilot. That ways a CFIS can give me a flight review in that LSA.
Note that I didn't say my medical is expired. My signal is that I can all the same fly an LSA without the medical on board because it is not required to exercise sport airplane pilot privledges. I tin can't fly in a higher place ten,000, or at nighttime, without the medical onboard, simply I can have a flying review from a CFIS, and he tin can perform it.
So yous're also saying that an ATP cannot share expenses, because the reg but allows Private Pilots to practise so?
Nothing in either of these regs says "certificate".
No, the LS CFI is not authorized to requite you a flight review.
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Show the reg that says so.
Anyone can fly with priveldges below their certification, simply because you are immune to do that does not permit a LSCFI privileges beyond their certification. Under your behavior an ATP flying a corporate jet tin get a flight review from a LSCFI in a cub. That not how information technology works.
No, my belief (Equally conspicuously stated in the reg) is that an ATP flying a corporate jet doesn't demand a flying review. Just if that ATP is flying a corporate King Air that doesn't require a blazon rating, yes, he tin can get that flying review in a LSA from a LSCFI, provided the ATP is rated to act every bit PIC in the LSA beingness used.
Then y'all're saying a "regular" CFI with just ASE privileges cannot requite a FR to someone who has both ASE and AME privileges, because it'southward beyond the CFI'south certification?
What I am saying is this, if you pull out your pilot document and it does not say sport pilot and a sport pilot CFI endorses you for a flight review and FAA investigates for any reason, your flight review is invalid considering the light sport CFI was non authorized to requite you lot a flight review. Y'all and the LS CFI will bailiwick to FAA enforcement. But you exercise as you want.
What about an ATP with only SP privileges at the ASE level?
And what practise y'all run across as the deviation between a FR for a Sport Pilot in a J-3 vs an ATP in a J-three?

Obviously it wasn't an result in the instance given where the FAA reviewed Dana'due south logbooks. In fact, AC 61.98c states, "In such example, the pilot may take a flying review in any one of the aircraft for which he or she holds a rating or operating privilege and they volition have met the regulatory requirement for all aircraft for which they agree a certificate and or rating." The ATP holds Sport Pilot operating privileges in those categories/classes for which he is rated, so he tin can take a flying review at the Sport Pilot level and be good to get.
Best thing to exercise would exist to call your FSDO and ask to speak to an ops inspector. Information technology simply might take awhile before they answer the telephone.
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Well, at the fourth dimension of my incident, I was flying a LSA-compliant aircraft without a medical, and so I was "a PP exercising the privileges of a SP".
But does 61.413 (a)(half dozen) mean "(a flying review) or (operating privilege for a sport pilot)" or "(a flying review or operating privilege) for a sport pilot"?
According to AOPA, I am incorrect.

Flight review. Sport instructors are authorized to provide a flight review and logbook endorsements for a sport pilot. However, this is not a limitation and does not mean that the sport instructor cannot provide a flight review for other pilots in the LSA. Sport instructors may also bear preparation in the FAA Airplane pilot Proficiency Plan (WINGS). More often than not, it's agreed that the sport instructor tin conduct well-nigh whatsoever education within the limits of his/her certificate so long equally it is done in an LSA.
Half Fast and Salty similar this.
Well, if AOPA says that, y'all must've been right all forth!
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I was discussing it with the aforementioned SP-CFI this weekend. He said he had a confirmation from the local FSDO that he may indeed give a flight review (or tailwheel endorsement, some other thing he does) for a higher rated airplane pilot, as long as information technology's in a LSA.
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This is an interesting discussion....I am a Private Pilot with a CFI-SP. I have to have the same refresher as any other CFI every two years. I accept given BFR to a young man Individual Pilot in an LSA compliant aircraft....I've done a few tailwheel endorsements and seaplane ratings for people.....some other interesting question would be tin I give seaplane instruction to a Private Pilot in my LSA and sign him off for a checkride for a full blown SES...the LSA seaplane rating is done differently. For that, 1 teacher gives the training and another CFI does the checkride.

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Distortion.
Since SP teaching from a SP CFI tin can exist used toward a PPL, it would brand nothing sense that a Sport CFI couldn't give a PPL a flight review.

Almost all of my instruction for my PPL was in an LSA from a Sport CFI.
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If the new proposed rule alter takes shape increasing the gross weight for LSA category to 3600 lbs (or whatever it ends upwardly being) as announced recently....Information technology will really open up this issue upwardly......I would be able to give pedagogy, BFRs and endorsements in much larger shipping....172's, cherokees, 182s....the listing goes on. As long as I'k qualified to operate those....which I already am since i am a Private Pilot...I just chose to become the CFI-SP so I could teach friends and family to fly for free......I wanted have visitor in my chosen hobby The only existent difference betwixt my CFI training vs. a "Regular" CFI is I didn't demand an Instrument and Commercial to go it....the checkride was thorough (If non rather difficult) and the written included both the FOI (Fundamentals of Didactics) and the CFI written exam itself (two divide tests). Minus the musical instrument portion. Hopefully this ends up being a good thing for aviation.
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What is pasted beneath seems to point that a flight review or proficiency check past a calorie-free sport CFI counts for the required biennial flight review under 61.56. The limitation appears to be that the low-cal sport CFI can do the BFR, but only in a calorie-free sport shipping. The airplane pilot can do the BFR in any aircraft category/class for which the pilot is rated.
https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certif...tion/sport_pilot/media/FAA-AFS800_Palmer1.pdf

Does the proficiency check required by§ 61.321(b) for a Sport Airplane pilot or higher certificated pilot as well meet the proficiency check or practical test requirement for the§ 61.56(d) flight review exemption requirement?

An airman who has passed the pilot proficiency check required by Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) § 61.321(b) demand not accomplish a flying review within the preceding twenty 4 calendar months, equally prescribed in§ 61.56(d)(l).

61.415 What are the limits of a flying instructor document with a sport airplane pilot rating?
If you concur a flying instructor certificate with a sport airplane pilot rating, you lot may only provide flying preparation in a light-sport shipping and are subject to the following limits:

(d) Y'all may not endorse a:

(4) Logbook of a airplane pilot for a flight review, unless yous have conducted a review of that airplane pilot in accordance with the requirements of § 61.56.

61.56
(c) Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (eastward), and (k) of this section, no person may human activity as pilot in command of an shipping unless, since the offset of the 24th calendar month before the calendar month in which that pilot acts as pilot in command, that person has—
(1) Achieved a flight review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor and

61.321 How do I obtain privileges to operate an boosted category or course of light-sport aircraft?
(b) Successfully complete a proficiency check from an authorized instructor other than the instructor who trained you on the aeronautical knowledge areas and areas of operation specified in §§61.309 and 61.311 for the additional light-sport aircraft privilege y'all seek;

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§61.413 What are the privileges of my flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating?
(a) If you lot concord a flying instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating, you are authorized, within the limits of your document and rating, to provide training and endorsements that are required for, and chronicle to—
(1) A educatee airplane pilot seeking a sport pilot certificate;

(2) A sport pilot document;

(three) A flying instructor certificate with a sport airplane pilot rating;

(iv) A powered parachute or weight-shift-command aircraft rating;

(5) Sport airplane pilot privileges;

(half dozen) A flight review or operating privilege for a sport pilot;

(7) A applied exam for a sport pilot certificate, a individual pilot certificate with a powered parachute or weight-shift-control aircraft rating or a flight teacher certificate with a sport pilot rating;

(eight) A knowledge test for a sport airplane pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate with a powered parachute or weight-shift-control aircraft rating or a flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating; and

(ix) A proficiency cheque for an additional category or grade privilege for a sport airplane pilot certificate or a flight teacher certificate with a sport airplane pilot rating.

(b) A person who holds a flight teacher document with a sport airplane pilot rating is authorized, in a form and manner acceptable to the Ambassador, to:

(ane) Have an application for a student pilot certificate or, for an applicant who holds a pilot document (other than a student pilot document) issued under part 61 of this affiliate and meets the flying review requirements specified in §61.56, a remote airplane pilot certificate with a pocket-sized UAS rating;

(2) Verify the identity of the applicant; and

(iii) Verify that an applicant for a educatee pilot document meets the eligibility requirements in §61.83.
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Based on #6, in order to accurately reply the original question, might it depend on what type of aircraft the private airplane pilot intends to fly (what operating privileges the airplane pilot wants to exercise)?
If the private pilot only intends to practise the operating privileges of a sport pilot (wing LSA with a commuter's license), the answer might exist yes?

If that same individual pilot then wanted to get wing a not-LSA SEL shipping, perhaps using BasicMed, that pilot would and then need to complete another flight review with flying instructor certificated under subpart H of part 61, even if she/he was all the same inside the two year window of the sport CFI flying review?
It doesn't matter what certificate or operating privilege the pilot plans to employ. A flying review is a flying review, and applies to all privileges held by the pilot regardless of what aircraft was used or what instructor privilege signed information technology off. #half dozen merely means he can't give a flying review in an aircraft not covered by his instructor certificate.
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I'chiliad non sure that'due south what #6 is implying since the judgement ends with "sport airplane pilot". The aircraft limitation seems to exist specified nether FAR 61.415.
61.56 no person may act equally pilot in command of an aircraft unless, since the beginning of the 24th month before the month in which that airplane pilot acts equally airplane pilot in command, that person has—(1) Achieved a flying review given in an aircraft for which that pilot is rated by an authorized instructor
If I got a flight review, I got a flight review. No need for dissever flight reviews for seaplane vs. land vs. glider vs. sport vs lighter than air vs whatever.